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This analysis is for the benefit of those who wish to understand how to remove fly out of fly-bottle! I hope the policy makers understand.A great service has been done by the blogger by his pursuit of truth and justice
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Just listened to a program on ABC’s Radio National’s feature DOOSRA: THE LIFE AND TIMES OF INDIAN STUDENTS IN AUSTRALIA. It is on the weblink http://ow.ly/1o7BW and amongst the better summarisation of the last eight months. Strongly recommending to all.
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Very well written Ravi !
Yes I agree that there were several factors which have led to these ugly controversies and the racism debate (or Red Herring theories). Both in Australia and India, the Media, Politicians and many others have a role to play in this where attention was drawn away from the guilty parties. The attacks were stray incidents and small street brawls which have been given great importance. Some of our senior leaders have made comments with our knowing the facts and adding to this were the statements of the Victorian police chief too. While some so called student leaders in Australia have used these incidents for their own goals.
Any how the bottom line is that the Australian government policies had ( and still have) too many loop holes. There was no correct measures in place to control such incidents. Students who studied courses like cooking or hairdressing have been encouraged in the past, the result was many doggy providers were encouraged. The good Universities also have a role to play in this, they allowed articulations to many doggy providers for some small financial gains. By the time the authorities opened their eyes and got in measures like cracking down on doggy institutes and doggy agent’s including MARA agents, the damage was already done. If the racism controversies or the so called Rd Herring theories were not available then may be some one would never have opened their eyes. Anyhow better late than never thanks to the Red Herring Theories
I agree to most of your points but again I only blame the past Australian Immigration policy for all this, student visas were issued without proper checks and protocols. The result was that the quality of students that Australia absorbed from the past few years was really bad and hopeless. Its time they have a look into this and adopt a policy where good genuine Indian students wanting to study in universities and good institutes are encouraged and change their policies plus they must also monitor that ESOS act and other rules be strongly imposed on all providers.
Nishidhar Reddy
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Whatever, be it. Australia needs IMMIGRANTS for sure. Not many will disagree that the city of Melbourne is run by International students at night. May it be gas stations, taxi services, local shops such as 7-11 are all run by International students. This is one of the big reasons why noone is really clamping down to enforce the 20 hours limit for part time jobs for cab drivers when all know that even two shifts of taxi-work is 24 hours and hence more than the permittable limit. Everyone is guilty including the former government who allowed it and the current government who ignore compliance for convenience. There is a vacuum created by exit of Pauline Hanson which some will try to fill too. At the same time some will aim at the migrant votes.
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Yes I agree that Australia needs migrants but again they also need the right sort of people to come to Australia and not rouge students. Their past policies have not attracted good students and in fact encouraged doggy and unethical institutes and migration agents
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Now these migration agents want to become education agents. The Migration agent body is proposing to Aus Gov that they be engaged in regulating education agents. They forget that due to the way the regulation of even the onshore migration agents was shaping up, the DIAC took over the role last year itself. What a joke that they want to now regulate offshore education agents.
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As we keep thinking, more and more “red herrings” become apparent. Very sad indeed that all of us got waylaid.
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Hi Ravi,Excellent posting of both IDP and Austech.IDP will now concentrate on the USA market.I anticipate more Institute will close with the passage of the Re-registration Bill.Grant Thornton consultants are carrying out a financial health checks on behalf of the VRQA on 127 Private Vet providers . This number is beside the 41 under Rapid audit.The RTOs will be given a score for 1-10.1-3 Red 4-7 Orange 8-10 Green Red are the High risk provider A number of RTOs of the 127 are likely to apply for Voluntary Administration.I anticipate Victoria heading for a recesssion as Internaitonal Education is the second largest export earner ($ 5 billion).Internaitonal Student Education cannot be de-linked from GSMRegardsGlenn Pereiragpereira@ozemail.com.au
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Hello Glenn,
I agree with your comments that more colleges will close. I guess your comments are in reference to my other blog on disinvestments and closure.
Sad but this is the reality.
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The issues
-Auditors also work as consultants
-there is no regulatory authority or code of conduct for Auditors
-set up a regulatory body for auditors and consultants
-There is no regulatory authority for agents in Australia
-Set up Education Agent Regulatory authority (EARA) with a code of conduct
-Education Agents are paid upto 40 percent commission
-Anecdotal evidence indicate that both Education agents and Registered migration agents have organised “bogus 900 hours certificates”
-Based on anecdotal evidence majority of Students doing Trade courses (cookery, Hair Dressing, Horticulture & Motor mechanic) will not pass a Trade course
-According to the individual industry package a Cert III in a Trade course over 1 year is equivalent to a Cert III in a trade course over a 3 to 4 years apprenticeship
-Would a person give a car for repairs to an International student who has completed his motor mechanic course in 1 year or to a local student who has completed a 4 year apprenticeship ?Suggestion :
1) Auditors should not be permitted to work as consultants to register VT schools or sit in at audits as consultants
2) Education agents should be banned in Australia as per Baird or restrict the commission to maximum 20 percent
3) Student must complete a Cert III and Cert IV in sequence as both are Trade courses, inorder to apply for TRA
4) abolish permanent residents for students who have completed a Trade course
5) Introduce 18 months temporary visa after completion of a Cert III & Cert IV
6) Restricted work rights of 38 hrs during this period
7) wages during this period should be 3rd year apprenticeship
8) Student who works 30 hrs for 12 months out of 18 months should be permitted to apply for a temporary 457 or ENS with a reduced wages than the wages Gazetted for a 457 visa.Regards
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Glenn?
Who is going to offer full time employment to people on temporary visas? Even a suitably qualified person will find it difficult to get a job offer without permanent visas. This is leading to further scams because now applicants are paying “higher fees” to employers/agents etc. to get “full time employment”.
I think Job Ready will work fine if unpaid work experience is also allowed. Afterall, arent we looking for qualified and skilled tradesperson? or are we looking for “paid” workers? The person can gain required skills during unpaid work also which can be verified by JRT.
Most trades are off the SOL, so drop in applications are guaranteed.
There is this organisation called iPEAL (www.ipeal.org.au) for Education Agents in Australia.
Commissions are agreed betweent Agent and Edu Provider. I don’t this can be regulated. However, most TAFEs offer max commission of 20%. Reduced commissions do not guarantee quality service and education. In fact, agents might try to look at other avenues for more income sources.
EARA is a good idea but only with clear understandings of requirements related to education industry and agents.
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Jag and Glenn,
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/education-agents-could-be-regulated-20100323-qtxp.html
MIA’s move to regulate Education Agents is like grappling for anything that can come their way. They failed to regulate the Migration Agents properly and so education agents is a far cry. A number of institutions have problems even when their education agents double up as migration agents.
Simply clearing the EATC and being listed on QEAC database is actually only ensuring that the agent is well aware. Not regulating at all.
The reach of Aussie regulations are limited to within Australia and not in overseas lands. I can share here that AAERI has now changed its norms. EATC is a must but also a new third party integrity check has been introduced amongst other things. AAERI also has a lot of cleansing to undertake.
As shared with MIA by AAERI directly to Maureen at the meeting in Delhi, an MOU bettween MIA and AAERI should be first step. MIA regulates in Australia while AAERI does that in India.
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Baird has recommended banning agents from Australia.
Government should set up Education Agents Regulatory Authority to regulate agents with a code of conduct.
From 1st July 2009 the MIA does not regulate Migration Agents.
I doubt the Federal Government will agree to the proposal of the MIA to regulate education Agents.
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Jag,
I agree with you
TRA is trying to equate a Cert III (trade course) delivered institutional pathway over 1 year to International students with a Cert III (trade course) issued at the end of a 3 years apprenticeship.
You are absolutely right, who will employ International student with minimum practical training in their 1 year Cert III course at market rates.
Also at the end of Cert III most of the students complete a Diploma which is not a trade course. Hence in the 1 year when they are studying the Diploma they will loose all the practical skills.
I was informed that TRA has upgraded their website today after I raised the issue i.e. when can an International student apply for a provisional assessment. I was informed that students can now apply at the end of 92 weeks i.e. at the time they are in a position to apply for a sub-class 485.
None of these students will be able to find employment at the end of 2 academic years (92 weeks) as they have not been in practical session for the last 1 year when they were completing the Diploma.
Do we see another scam in the next 12 months similarly to the 900 hrs scam ????
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It is quite evident that Govt. knew from day one what its going to end up with… a HUGE MESS! But Govt. also knew that financial gains will be enormous and they always had the option of turning the TAP OFF! just like that..
I have seen that happening in the past too (with both Liberals and Labors).
As for regulating education agents, we’ll have to see what MIA plans are. QEAC is a joke! The NAB manager, Akshay Batra, who was involved in a $22.7 million loan scam for students applying for GSM and claiming 5 points for $100,000 investment, was a QEAC and registered on PIER website. He could still be on the database. Was he a person of integrity?
Just a year back (before all this started), I was taking advice from a friend about my business expansions. After I told him how industry works, he said “there is no entry barrier for your industry. Its very risky. Just about anybody can be part of it and they can ruin everything.” He gave me examples of some people who had nothing to do with education, and who were operating colleges. Few of them were taxi operators, real estate agents or grocerers.
There has to be some entry requirements for education agents. You cannot open up just by having an office space, a big banner and a fancy name! Jalandhar and Chandigarh are full of fancy names and colourful banners. If they are not registered or recognised by edu providers, they work with other agencies “which are registered and recognised”. How can you regulate something like that?
Then there are “hidden agencies” under the disguise of IELTS trainers, travel agencies etc.
Talking about tougher policies, DIAC hasn’t done anything to stop “unregistered migration practice” in Australia despite so many complains. A list is being compiled again and will be sent by MA (Migration Alliance). I think Glenn is aware of that. Lot of us don’t complain, because we know that its useless to even waste our time and energy.
I think DIAC should employ RMAs, who are looking to exit the profession (because of industry slump) and create a Task Force to deal with “unregistered agencies”. DIAC already has too much on its plate, it seems.
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