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		<title>Comment on When NZ looks for scapegoats in education agents &#8220;to cover their faults&#8221;; NZ loses its uniqueness. by Nishidhar Reddy</title>
		<link>http://ravilochansingh.com/2012/05/16/when-nz-looks-for-scapegoats-in-education-agents-to-cover-their-faults-nz-loses-its-uniqueness/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nishidhar Reddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 10:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just seen the clip again - looks like students have taken things for granted that they are sure to settle down in New Zealand with a secured job after they complete the course. Has the institute or their agent given this information, If YES then there is a serious lapse. Neither the institute nor its agents must guarantee any jobs, migration or settlement pathways. 

The main issue with short term “Nursing” courses is that they don’t offer registration with NZ Nursing Council as a Qualified Nurse; the Nursing Council has its own restrictions and tough norms. They require high levels of English and also great scores. Overseas Nursing qualifications especially from India don’t get equivalence easily.  

I am sure the institute recruiting students for any sort of Nursing courses must be aware of this and they must / should advise the students about it.  Only a handful of the ITP’s do take Nursing students from India with low IELTS scores and this has led to the problem today.  The students are mainly complaining that the qualifications they gained in New Zealand are not being treated as EQUAL by the Nursing Council. No where they have complained that the quality of the course they just completed was bad or not upto the mark 

While I also agree that Institutes and their marketing units should stop running after student numbers and instead concentrate on quality for long-term success.  

New Zealand is no doubt a fantastic place for Indian students to study, it’s cheaper, it’s multicultural, it’s safer and offers world class living conditions. Yes most students after completing the course do find employment and also get success with their general skills migration applications. The post study work (Graduate Job Search) is available to students who complete the course and this attracts many international students. New Zealand provides Indian students with opportunities. 

The other side of the coin is that students with degrees but no knowledge, lack of EL skills end up with No jobs and they must stop blaming the system 
Students must stop complaining. Moreover students should also understand that doing any course in any country, in any institute cannot get them their dream jobs and this is only a myth. 
When things don’t go our way we start to complain. 

Nishi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just seen the clip again &#8211; looks like students have taken things for granted that they are sure to settle down in New Zealand with a secured job after they complete the course. Has the institute or their agent given this information, If YES then there is a serious lapse. Neither the institute nor its agents must guarantee any jobs, migration or settlement pathways. </p>
<p>The main issue with short term “Nursing” courses is that they don’t offer registration with NZ Nursing Council as a Qualified Nurse; the Nursing Council has its own restrictions and tough norms. They require high levels of English and also great scores. Overseas Nursing qualifications especially from India don’t get equivalence easily.  </p>
<p>I am sure the institute recruiting students for any sort of Nursing courses must be aware of this and they must / should advise the students about it.  Only a handful of the ITP’s do take Nursing students from India with low IELTS scores and this has led to the problem today.  The students are mainly complaining that the qualifications they gained in New Zealand are not being treated as EQUAL by the Nursing Council. No where they have complained that the quality of the course they just completed was bad or not upto the mark </p>
<p>While I also agree that Institutes and their marketing units should stop running after student numbers and instead concentrate on quality for long-term success.  </p>
<p>New Zealand is no doubt a fantastic place for Indian students to study, it’s cheaper, it’s multicultural, it’s safer and offers world class living conditions. Yes most students after completing the course do find employment and also get success with their general skills migration applications. The post study work (Graduate Job Search) is available to students who complete the course and this attracts many international students. New Zealand provides Indian students with opportunities. </p>
<p>The other side of the coin is that students with degrees but no knowledge, lack of EL skills end up with No jobs and they must stop blaming the system<br />
Students must stop complaining. Moreover students should also understand that doing any course in any country, in any institute cannot get them their dream jobs and this is only a myth.<br />
When things don’t go our way we start to complain. </p>
<p>Nishi</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by Ravi Lochan Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi Lochan Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aha... Modelling being prescribed as a career option at &quot;the prominent boarding school&quot; makes me worried for my alma mater.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha&#8230; Modelling being prescribed as a career option at &#8220;the prominent boarding school&#8221; makes me worried for my alma mater.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by Ravi Lochan Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi Lochan Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To an extent, I agree with this being a problem too. There are no real preperatory training available and so the career counsellors who have worked in the area of overseas education consultancy tend to have a little advantage over the others especially in schools that are aimed at international curriculum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To an extent, I agree with this being a problem too. There are no real preperatory training available and so the career counsellors who have worked in the area of overseas education consultancy tend to have a little advantage over the others especially in schools that are aimed at international curriculum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by Ravi Lochan Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi Lochan Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly there are many fine colleges in India but then an overseas qualification does add value. Whether it is a cost and benefit equation after spending 15 million Rupees is another issue and depends on family circumstances and aspirations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly there are many fine colleges in India but then an overseas qualification does add value. Whether it is a cost and benefit equation after spending 15 million Rupees is another issue and depends on family circumstances and aspirations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Zealand introduces its own STREAMLINE VISA PROCESSING relying on their accredited education agents&#8230; Good Move indeed !!! by Ravi Lochan Singh</title>
		<link>http://ravilochansingh.com/2012/05/15/new-zealand-introduces-its-own-streamline-visa-processing-relying-on-their-accredited-education-agents-good-move-indeed/#comment-2666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi Lochan Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is very unfair generalization on the quality of NZ Universities. There is no mushrooming of Universities permitted in NZ and all 8 of them are of exceptional quality and world leaders in certain disciplines.  They all feature amongst leading Universities by rankings too and as an average are better than rest of the world. Now getting a job depends on several parameters and these can include the aptitude, attitude and possibly even aspirations. There are many who choose NZ because of the pathway to work that it offers and has been offering for years. This article was on the polytechnics which aim at job readiness. Generally there is no issue with this too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is very unfair generalization on the quality of NZ Universities. There is no mushrooming of Universities permitted in NZ and all 8 of them are of exceptional quality and world leaders in certain disciplines.  They all feature amongst leading Universities by rankings too and as an average are better than rest of the world. Now getting a job depends on several parameters and these can include the aptitude, attitude and possibly even aspirations. There are many who choose NZ because of the pathway to work that it offers and has been offering for years. This article was on the polytechnics which aim at job readiness. Generally there is no issue with this too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Zealand introduces its own STREAMLINE VISA PROCESSING relying on their accredited education agents&#8230; Good Move indeed !!! by rajarshi ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rajarshi ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are no good universities in nz. my friend went there, did some course, didn&#039;t get a job - and finally returned to india. but now-a-days people are going there for pr and i just hate these loosers ( that includes my friend also ), who&#039;re willing to get out of bharat at the drop of a hat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are no good universities in nz. my friend went there, did some course, didn&#8217;t get a job &#8211; and finally returned to india. but now-a-days people are going there for pr and i just hate these loosers ( that includes my friend also ), who&#8217;re willing to get out of bharat at the drop of a hat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by rajarshi ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rajarshi ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is she honestly insane?! i&#039;m pretty sure about that. there are so many nice colleges in our country which offers a course in architecture, yet she want to take up a liability of 15 million bucks. some people are just mad after the big fat american dream.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is she honestly insane?! i&#8217;m pretty sure about that. there are so many nice colleges in our country which offers a course in architecture, yet she want to take up a liability of 15 million bucks. some people are just mad after the big fat american dream.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by rmb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rmb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 08:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another aspect commercialisation of career counsellors in schools. Most career counsellors in schools today are in the take from different colleges in India/Abroad. This problem is widespread and is there at every level of schools. Forget Indian Universities , even foreign universities have corrupted these counsellors by various means. These counsellors have experience ranging from 6 months to a year as counselling executives in some agencies and than join the schools. Usual traits to look out for &quot; snootiness with a know it all attitude&quot;. 
Its time schools addressed these problem seriously, students careers are being damaged by these career counsellors for pecuniary gains]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another aspect commercialisation of career counsellors in schools. Most career counsellors in schools today are in the take from different colleges in India/Abroad. This problem is widespread and is there at every level of schools. Forget Indian Universities , even foreign universities have corrupted these counsellors by various means. These counsellors have experience ranging from 6 months to a year as counselling executives in some agencies and than join the schools. Usual traits to look out for &#8221; snootiness with a know it all attitude&#8221;.<br />
Its time schools addressed these problem seriously, students careers are being damaged by these career counsellors for pecuniary gains</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by Ajai Banerji</title>
		<link>http://ravilochansingh.com/2012/05/20/counseling-on-careers-needs-to-include-familys-aspirations-and-circumstances-not-just-students-aptitude-and-grades/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ajai Banerji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 05:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good article. I had similar experiences while working as a career counsellor at a prominent boarding school. One of the major counselling agencies recommended a modelling career for a large proportion of the boys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article. I had similar experiences while working as a career counsellor at a prominent boarding school. One of the major counselling agencies recommended a modelling career for a large proportion of the boys.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counseling on Careers needs to include family&#8217;s aspirations and circumstances. Not just student&#8217;s aptitude and grades. by Urmila</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Urmila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually , the reasons are not absurd.  Young adults grow up with certain images of what they read and what they watch in films/ on TV and what they encounter in glossy brochures/ hyped websites. Since the exposure to real life has not happened,  romanticised notions are harboured. With real life juxtaposing; comes shock, then acceptance and then a  customised balance.  When it comes to making a career decision, practical exposure is necessary, which should act as a dipstick to evaluate if the love for a certain career stays or goes out of the window or packs in some  room for negotiation :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually , the reasons are not absurd.  Young adults grow up with certain images of what they read and what they watch in films/ on TV and what they encounter in glossy brochures/ hyped websites. Since the exposure to real life has not happened,  romanticised notions are harboured. With real life juxtaposing; comes shock, then acceptance and then a  customised balance.  When it comes to making a career decision, practical exposure is necessary, which should act as a dipstick to evaluate if the love for a certain career stays or goes out of the window or packs in some  room for negotiation <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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